“Trying to lie”: Graham Allen dares Candace Owens to respond after Tracy Martin disputes Erika Kirk allegations

On February 21, YouTuber Graham Allen used his show to directly challenge political commentator Candace Owens over what he called false claims about Erika Kirk. In a tense and emotional episode, Allen sat down with Tracy Martin, who says she has been Erika Kirk’s close friend for 15 years. The focus of the conversation was serious. It centered on statements Owens recently made about Erika Kirk’s location on the day Charlie Kirk was shot.

Right from the start, Graham Allen made it clear that he believed the claims were wrong. He said Candace Owens had pushed a version of events that did not match what Tracy Martin knew. Allen did not hold back. He openly challenged Owens to respond publicly and defend her reporting. The interview quickly turned into a point-by-point response to the allegations. Allen said he wanted to clear the air and “debunk these lies” in a direct and transparent way.

Graham Allen and Tracy Martin respond to Candace Owens’ claims about Erika Kirk and Charlie Kirk

During the interview, Graham Allen addressed viewers who might question the evidence. He then sent a direct message to Candace Owens.

He said, “Owens is trying to lie. And I think as we continue I’m kind of taken back by it a little bit. And I and and I would say this like I’m sure that people are going to watch and you’re going to say, ‘Well, where’s the evidence? Show us the evidence.’ Well, I would say this. Call us on it, Candace. We DARE you. Call us on it. Let’s see what you do.”

He followed that up by saying, “Yes. And I want to drive this home as we continue to debunk these lies.” Tracy Martin then shared her side of the story. She said Candace Owens claimed that her daughter worked as Erika Kirk’s assistant and was connected to TPUSA.

Tracy said that was not true. According to her, her daughter worked for Erika’s clothing brand, Proclaim Bible365, and never worked for TPUSA. Because of that, Tracy said there was no reason for her daughter or Erika to be at UVU, where Charlie Kirk was shot.

Tracy also responded to another claim. On her podcast, Candace Owens reportedly said Tracy had sensed something was wrong on the day of the shooting and stopped her daughter from going.

Tracy Martin denied that. She explained that she had made a random comment months earlier, not on the day of the shooting. She added that on September 10, Erika Kirk was with her sick mother.

That directly challenged Owens’ statement that Erika was with Tracy instead. Finally, Tracy said there was no argument between Charlie and Erika Kirk the day before the shooting, rejecting another claim made during Candace Owens’ coverage.